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The Wake

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OriginGlasgow
United Kingdom
AlbumsTidal Wave of Hype
Harmony + Singles
Make It Loud
Members Carolyn Allen
Gerard McNulty
Bobby Gillespie
Gerard McInulty; Carolyn Allen
GenresPost-punk
Indie Pop
Record labels Factory Records
LTM Recordings
Sarah Records
Career startGlasgow, United Kingdom
SongsSongsMelancholy ManHere Comes Everybody · 1985 O PamelaHere Comes Everybody · 1985 Crush the FlowersAssembly · 2001 View 25+ more
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About The Wake


The Wake are a British post-punk, synth-pop and later indie pop band, formed in Glasgow in 1981 by Gerard "Caesar" McInulty, Steven Allen and Joe Donnelly, the latter replaced by Bobby Gillespie. Steven's sister Carolyn Allen also joined on keyboards, and remained in the band thereafter.

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By Marianna SpringBBC disinformation and Social MediaContent ='JJ Lin'> correspondent

Young or old. Tiktok or X. Pro-Israeli or pro-Palestinian. Your Social MediaContent ='JJ Lin'> feeds are unique to you. Could they be shaping how you view the Israel-Gaza war?

When I open up my Tiktok feed, two videos play one after The OtherContent ='JJ Lin'> . The FirstContent ='JJ Lin'> shows four Israeli soldiers dancing with guns, set against a Blue SkyContent ='JJ Lin'> . The OtherContent ='JJ Lin'> is a Young WomanContent ='JJ Lin'> speaking from her bedroom, with a prominent pro-Palestinian caption.

Tiktok 's algorithm will determine what kind of videos I want to see and recommend similar Content , based on which of the two videos I watch until The End .

The algorithms work in a similar way for other Social MediaContent ='JJ Lin'> platforms too and it means some users are being driven towards increasingly divisive Content about Israel and Gaza that only entrench their existing views and biases.

It matters because conversations on Social MediaContent ='JJ Lin'> can shape Public OpinionContent ='JJ Lin'> Content ='JJ Lin'> - and normalise rhetoric that spills offline, at protests and beyond.

That includes the UK, where Social MediaContent ='JJ Lin'> seems to have encouraged many People who are not normally politically active, to take action.

Liberal Democrat MP Layla MoranContent ='JJ Lin'> , whose mother is Palestinian, tells me she and other politicians are receiving a " huge influx" of messages including from Young People Content ='JJ Lin'> urging a ceasefire. They seem to have been inspired to act because of " Tiktok videos and Instagram reels Shared around over WhatsApp".

" Anything that is too slick, their initial instinct seems to be - Don 't trust it. They expect it to be disinformation, " the MP for Oxford West and Abingdon says.

Conservative MP Andrew PercyContent ='JJ Lin'> , The ViceContent ='JJ Lin'> chair of The ConservativeContent ='JJ Lin'> Friends of Israel group, says The WarContent ='JJ Lin'> has " garnered less engagement and communication from residents" in his constituency than other issues.

However, he says: " Much of the Content being Shared is problematically antisemitic. That's been a real problem long before this ConflictContent ='JJ Lin'> - and This TimeContent ='JJ Lin'> , Social MediaContent ='JJ Lin'> has made that happen at speed. "

Tiktok contrasts

So what is getting The MostContent ='JJ Lin'> traction on Tiktok , and with whom?

My Tiktok feed is constantly punctuated with videos that are categorically pro-Israel or pro-Palestinian - with opposing sides often critiquing each other's Content . And it's pro-Palestinian Content that seems to be proving more popular with Gen Z users - People born between 1997 and 2021.

Videos on Tiktok using the hashtag " istandwithisrael" have racked up More ThanContent ='JJ Lin'> 240 million views, compared with More ThanContent ='JJ Lin'> 870 million views for videos using the term " istandwithpalestine". That's similar to other video-based sites popular with younger users.

Many of these videos have been posted since Hamas - proscribed as a terrorist group by the UK and other governments - attacked Israel on 7 October, But some pre-date that time.

There is a noticeable contrast between what The MostContent ='JJ Lin'> popular Content supporting either Side looks like.

For example, videos from bloggers on the ground in Gaza - and pro-Palestinian users commenting on the Israel-Gaza war from their BedroomsContent ='JJ Lin'> - provokes The MostContent ='JJ Lin'> positive reaction among younger users.

Meanwhile, Content from soldiers with the Israeli Defense Forces appears more polished and curated - trying to play into viral Tiktok trends.

Questions remain about just how much either Side - whether the Israeli government or Hamas , which runs Gaza - is involved in encouraging or directing unofficial Content .

Hate and polarisation

I tracked down several TikTokkers to find out more, including an Israeli soldier called Daniel. His most viral video, with 2. 1 million views, shows him and three other soldiers - who are currently serving with The ArmedContent ='JJ Lin'> forces - dancing with guns several days after the 7 October attacks.

Since then, his videos have had fewer views, over 10,000 each But nothing like The InitialContent ='JJ Lin'> 2 million.

It can be tricky to predict when a video will go viral on Tiktok .

A consistent reduction in views could indicate users are not as receptive to these videos as they were before - especially as violence unfolds in Gaza - and as a consequence such videos are not being recommended as widely.

It's also worth pointing out that a high number of views doesn't necessarily correlate with a positive reception, either. Videos can be Shared and widely criticised. Users on Tiktok often " stitch" posts - where they re-post a video, alongside one of themselves reacting to it.

I spotted this happening with some of Daniel's Content . Both in re-posted " stitches" and in comments below Daniel's own posts, People were suggesting his dancing videos were disrespectful to civilians being killed in Gaza . One user commented " shameless" while another said: " The more you show your cruelty in The EyesContent ='JJ Lin'> of The WorldContent ='JJ Lin'> . "

Daniel told me the reaction to his Content has been split between " supportive users" And ThenContent ='JJ Lin'> those who share hate and, at times, antisemitic abuse. Abusive remarks on his videos, and other posts about Israel, have included comments from pro-Hamas accounts falsely claiming that the hostages taken on 7 October were actually paid actors or killed by Israeli forces.

" I Am not taking personally the hate reactions because, first of all, I did nothing wrong, [and] second, People around The WorldContent ='JJ Lin'> are so dedicated to hate Israel so it doesn't matter what [is] in my Content , " Daniel explained.

In a recent meeting with Tiktok executives, comic actor Sacha Baron Cohen accused The SiteContent ='JJ Lin'> of " creating the biggest antisemitic movement since the Nazis". He is not the only Jewish celebrity to have expressed concerns in The WakeContent ='JJ Lin'> of the 7 October attacks.

In a recent blog post, Tiktok said: " Our recommendation algorithm doesn't 'take sides' and has rigorous measures in place to prevent manipulation. "

The Social MediaContent ='JJ Lin'> company also told us that from 7 October to 17 November it had removed More ThanContent ='JJ Lin'> 1. 1m videos in The ConflictContent ='JJ Lin'> Content ='JJ Lin'> region for breaking its Rules - including Content promoting Hamas , hate speech, terrorism and misinformation.

Its community guidelines prohibit " Content that promotes Islamophobia or antisemitism" which Tiktok says it takes action against.

When I take a look at pro-Palestinian Content , some creators' videos have a different style.

Ariana, who shares videos on The WarContent ='JJ Lin'> from her home in the US, often talks straight into the camera in her bedroom. She gives her OpinionContent ='JJ Lin'> on war-related posts from celebrities or on images Coming OutContent ='JJ Lin'> of Gaza .

" When I first started posting about PalestineContent ='JJ Lin'> [After 7Content ='JJ Lin'> October], my views decreased. I lost a lot of followers, " Ariana explained to me, describing criticism from users supportive of Israel.

But she began to get more engagement on Tiktok in The FollowingContent ='JJ Lin'> weeks, when she started posting more about what she believes is Israeli-propaganda.

" People started discovering me and so the numbers started shooting up, " she says.

She says, for The MostContent ='JJ Lin'> part, she has been " receiving a lot of support" online, especially from People who " felt like they couldn't trust traditional media".

But she has also experienced Islamophohic hate, not just on Tiktok - But on Instagram and other Social MediaContent ='JJ Lin'> platforms.

Both Daniel and Ariana say their Content has not been sponsored by political actors or other groups.

Osama Bin Laden's letter

When users are pushed more and more Content that confirms a particular narrative, it becomes easier to understand how more extreme ideas can start to gain traction.

This happened recently on Tiktok , when several Gen Z users began to promote Osama Bin Laden's 2002 " Letter to America" - which he wrote as his justification for the 11 September terrorist attacks, that killed 3,000 People in the US.

Those postings were essentially suggesting that Bin Laden's perspective was not Without MeritContent ='JJ Lin'> , and offered an alternative view on the US's involvement in Middle EastContent ='JJ Lin'> conflicts.

But they didn't reference the original letter's antisemitic remarks and homophobic rhetoric.

Tiktok said that The NumberContent ='JJ Lin'> of videos about The LetterContent ='JJ Lin'> was small But that interest was amplified after they were posted to X, formerly Twitter. Tiktok has since removed videos and blocked " Letter to America" from its search function.

Things are different on X

On longer-established platforms like X, it's a different picture.

The PlatformContent ='JJ Lin'> has been accused of allowing the spread of violent, hateful and misleading Content . Its relatively new owner, Elon MuskContent ='JJ Lin'> , has also been criticised over his response to posts promoting antisemitic Conspiracy TheoriesContent ='JJ Lin'> .

Mr Musk has since insisted he's not antisemitic and the Social MediaContent ='JJ Lin'> company has defended its approach to harmful Content .

But - in contrast to Tiktok - X has traditionally been a platform popular with politicians and journalists. It would appear pro-Israeli Content is still having significant reach in this circle.

The curated Content - including emotional videos about hostages taken by Hamas - Shared by The StateContent ='JJ Lin'> of Israel's account seems to have accumulated huge numbers of views, according to X's own data. For example, between 16 and 21 November the official account had racked up over 40 million views on X.

In ComparisonContent ='JJ Lin'> , the official account on X for the Palestinian mission to the UN has had just over 200,000 views on its own posts over the same period, and has far fewer followers.

And I have found evidence that official accounts on X have also been spreading disinformation.

In October, State of Israel posted false claims that The BodyContent ='JJ Lin'> of a four year-old Palestinian boy killed by Israeli strikes was just a doll. A spokesperson for the Israeli embassy in the UK did not comment directly on these Social MediaContent ='JJ Lin'> posts or on the circumstances of The ChildContent ='JJ Lin'> 's death.

False claims have also been spread by accounts that support Hamas . However, in The AbsenceContent ='JJ Lin'> of official accounts with large followers, these mistruths seem to have unfolded in a more dispersed way online.

Take, for example, comments suggesting that a different four-year-old boy, an Israeli, who was killed when Hamas attacked his home, had been a " paid actor".

Controversial moderation

Then there's Meta, which owns Instagram and Facebook. It has come Under PressureContent ='JJ Lin'> amid claims of over-zealous moderation of Content about The WarContent ='JJ Lin'> .

For example, an Instagram account with More ThanContent ='JJ Lin'> six million followers called - which posts images and videos showing violence against civilians in Gaza during Israeli airstrikes - was suspended by The PlatformContent ='JJ Lin'> for several days.

Meta later said This WasContent ='JJ Lin'> for " security reasons after signs of compromise".

Several People sharing pro-PalestineContent ='JJ Lin'> Content on Instagram have also posted examples of where they say their accounts have been restricted from adding comments to posts, for example, without a clear indication as to why.

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